Investigators conducting a criminal probe into the Uvalde school shooting and subsequent law enforcement response are trying to determine whether any victims who died may have survived if police had intervened sooner.
Four victims — teacher Eva Mireles and three students — who had heartbeats when they were rescued from adjoining classrooms in Robb Elementary died that day. They had been trapped with the shooter for more than an hour.
The Texas Rangers have asked Dr. Mark Escott, medical director for the Texas Department of Public Safety and chief medical officer for the city of Austin, to look into the injuries of the victims. In a statement, a city spokesperson said Escott will “lead an analysis of the injuries sustained by the Uvalde shooting victims to determine whether there may have been opportunities to save lives had emergency medical care been provided sooner.”
“Similar reviews have been conducted in the past following mass shooting incidents to learn lessons, influence policy development and improve responses to future incidents,” the spokesperson said.
Details of the inquiry, which is in its early stages, were first reported Thursday
by the Austin American-Statesman. Officials with DPS did not immediately respond to an email.
Escott said in an interview that he contacted DPS shortly after the shooting to ask if the analysis could be conducted. He was familiar with similar reviews that had been done after other mass shooting events and how they can inform EMS and law enforcement policy as well as public policy. While he has received some information from DPS since the late summer, he said he is still missing finalized autopsies, which will be key for the examination.
Nineteen children and two teachers were killed in the May 24 shooting at Robb Elementary.
"I think the analysis will help to answer the key question: If medical care had been able to be provided sooner, would it have made a difference? And if so, for how many people?" Escott said. "I don't know what this analysis is going to show but it will be objective, it will be complete and it will answer the questions."
He added in past mass shootings there is evidence that some victims could have survived if medical care was provided sooner, but in those cases the victims were adults.
“In speaking to researchers, who've done analyses on children who've been shot with rifles, that number has been zero,” he said. He also said that in some cases, depending the on the severity of the wounds, the fact that first responders transported victims to hospitals does not mean that the victims could have survived.
“In general, the fact that that patients are transported to hospitals or resuscitation is attempted, does not necessarily mean that they have injuries which are survivable,” he said. “It's not uncommon, particularly with injuries like gunshot wounds to the head, where individuals may stay alive for minutes, sometimes hours, sometimes longer. But ultimately, the injury that they have is not a survivable injury.”
Eulalio “Lalo” Diaz Jr., a justice of the peace in Uvalde who was the on-duty coroner on May 24, said in an interview last month that he thinks four victims who were transported out of the school — Mireles, Jackie Cazares, Jose Flores and Xavier Lopez
— may have survived if first responders got them medical attention sooner. He also noted that there were other injured teachers and students who survived even after police waited more than an hour to enter the classroom where the gunman was.
“Could more have survived? Probably. We won’t know until the final autopsy report comes out from the medical examiner,” he said. “That’ll tell you exactly where they were shot. What injury happened if they hit a major artery, or if it was just a wound in the torso area that allowed them to bleed out a longer period of time. I won’t know that, I won't be able to tell you for sure. But just the fact that some people did survive tells you that maybe they could have, everybody has a different situation and a different type of wound.”
Nearly 400 law enforcement officers responded to the shooting, but none breached the classroom full of kids where the gunman was for more than an hour after the shooting began, even as some children in the rooms called 911 for help
The district attorney in Uvalde, Christina Mitchell, has called the investigation a criminal inquiry but has not shared much information about whether charges will be brought against any officers who responded. She reiterated earlier this week that she had not made any charging decisions yet.
“I will be unable to make a decision as to potential charges on anyone, including law enforcement, until I receive the complete investigation,” Mitchell said. “I have consistently stated that if the criminal investigation reveals any conduct or lack of conduct which meets the elements of a criminal offense in the state of Texas, I will seek an indictment by a Uvalde grand jury.”
Mitchell did not immediately respond to an email Thursday morning.
In an interview in August, she said the completed criminal investigation would be presented to a grand jury, which will determine if anyone should be charged with a crime. She said the criminal investigation will look at “every adult that was in that building.”
“I don’t know if we will have criminal charges until their investigation is complete," she said. I' don’t know that we are and I don’t know that we’re not. Therefore, I want them to do a complete and thorough investigation. And then the case will be presented to a grand jury and then we will know.”
Texas Rangers expect to finish their part of the investigation by the end of the year and send their findings to the district attorney, DPS Director Steve McCraw said last week.
In September, McCraw said that he would resign
if his troopers had “any culpability” in the flawed response. Ninety-one of the 376 law enforcement officers who responded were from state police.
Facing calls to resign
last week, McCraw said, “DPS as an institution, right now, did not fail the community.” If it did, he said, he would resign.
He added, during a Public Safety Commission meeting, that the actions of all troopers would be scrutinized.
“The question is how many kids did die in that room, or teachers died, because they missed that ‘magic hour,’” he said, referring to a critical period during which someone suffering from survivable injuries must be treated. “You gotta stop the dying. And they were in there with an active shooter and we didn’t get through that door, we didn’t go through the windows, plain and simple, and we — law enforcement — should have done it.” https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2022/11/03/four-uvalde-shooting-victims-left-classrooms-alive-investigators-are-reviewing-whether-a-faster-response-could-have-saved-them/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=snd&utm_content=ksat12&fbclid=IwAR0ju8-bPNc8K_LgUeplS2NwFs_8kTvL8qfDtpxKKaeZb_XrB-tIZBd_EOg
Driving home from work just now (9p'ish), and I got passed by a SAPD SUV coming from IH10 heading into downtown, lights flashing and siren wailing, and then 3 or 4 more SAPD SUVs heading up 35 with lights on, and then another SAPD SUV passing the Alamodome, seemingly heading the same direction. Nothing on Twitter or KSAT12, from what I can see.
August 8, 2022 minor update. Fixed some broken links, working on housing market update. Deleting events that have changed/closed, looking to add more info there. Hit me up with glaring errors or for whatever. I'm on reddit most days.
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First off, and most importantly, welcome to your new home. San Antonio is the 7th largest city in the U.S, but many who come here say it has a small town feel to it. Generally speaking you’re going to find its inhabitants incredibly welcoming, friendly, and open.
A couple of things. Why am I making this? Just look through the first few pages of /sanantonio
. So many threads about how people are moving here. And rather than leave your first impression as snarky responses about read the sidebar, lurk more etc, I thought I’d offer up a thread to stem the tide for a little while.
Who the hell am I? I’ve lived in San Antonio since 1987, the year of my birth. I lived also in the Hill Country where I went to university, but it’s only an hour away, so my home base has been the Alamo city for my entire life. I think that qualifies me to have an informed opinion. So all information is just my opinion, and it’s to the best of my knowledge, but by no means definitive. There will be hoards who disagree, because all experiences vary and I welcome that dissent. Of course we know this, but this is Reddit, where people love to tell you you’re wrong, so a disclaimer is necessary. Take my guide with a grain of salt please, I just did this when I was bored one day. :D Questions I’ve seen a lot: What are the people like?
Generally, AWESOME! Like I said above, we’re warm and inviting here in SAtown. Hospitality is something we love to engage in. We love to have a good time, have a laugh, keep it real down here. Talking to people in line or shopping is completely normal. Of course not everyone is nice, but I feel like you’d have to go out of your way to get rude responses generally. Don’t be an asshole, and I’m sure people will treat you with respect. Where can I get my grocery on? HEB
is king in Texas. And it’s pretty badass. They pay their employee’s well, its affordable and has good selection. They’re everywhere. Chances are like 100% that if you move here, you’ll get your groceries here. Some other options in the area are Whole Foods
(2 locations), Trader Joe’s
(2 locations), Sprouts
(2 locations), and La Fiesta
(mostly central, west and south SA). There may be other stores around town as well, but I’ve never been to them.
Are you having a fancy dinner party and want some weird shit? Check out Central Market
where all your culinary desires can be fulfilled, for a price.
As for Farmers Markets, I found this nifty little infographic
that you could check out. And of course, you’ll see people on the side of the road selling out of the backs of their vehicles. Go for it, this is how my family buys our watermelons and fire wood every year. Traffic
This is a huge city; we are the definition of urban sprawl. San Antonio is 31.4 miles east to west and 26 miles north to south according to GoogleEarth and is 460.9 sq mi. What does that mean for you? There’s traffic! During the hours of 6:30/7:00am – 4:00ish/7:00p.m Mon thru Fri the roads are congested. There’s 2 loops that you will come to know intimately as well as our interstates I-10 and I-35. 281 is nasty as well, especially in Stone Oak area. These roads back up, they slow down, and people haul ass. A lot of people will tell you we don’t know how to drive in this city. I think everyone thinks that about where they’re from, but in my experience we have some pretty shitty drivers lol. But it’s not nearly as bad as Houston or Austin or some other major cities in the U.S.
Where you live and commute to will most readily impact your experience of traffic, so results may vary. My biggest advice on this front, get yourself some apps (Google Maps and Waze are your friends!), give yourself plenty of time to learn the commute and the traffic, and make sure you get un/underinsured motorists on your insurance policy. I personally know of several people who have had hit and runs happen here. Usually minor scrapes, etc but there are some statistics that say 1 in 6 drivers are uninsured here in San Antonio. Also, people lie! So maybe a dash cam is a useful investment, but this isn’t SA specific advice. Also, don’t leave shit in your car in plain view. It doesn’t matter where you are; don’t invite people to break into your car by making this rookie move. Can I live without a car in SA/ Public Transportation
I love my fair city, but we are just terrible when it comes to public transportation networks here. We have the VIA
system of buses. They do the best they can and are always improving, but San Antonio knows it needs better transportation infrastructure. In fact, our new Mayor Ron Nirenberg seems to have focused a lot in his campaign on “Improv[ing] transportation infrastructure to get San Antonio moving”. As it stands, we are not really a bike/pedestrian friendly city. But people still bike and run, here’s a map
of where people do that in the city. We don’t hate them, but SA runs on vehicles. The sprawl dictates that cars are a necessity unless you want to spend 2 hours a day getting to and from work (or hey maybe you found a sweet work from home job and its not as relevant to you). It’s the way the city is built with high prevalence of box stores and strip malls, suburbs etc. You could get by walking/biking everywhere downtown, and by all means there are people who don’t live in the city center who don’t own cars. Generally speaking, this isn’t a choice most people make.
There is also Lyft and Uber as well as Yellow Cab for getting around town, so download yourself those apps if you want to get your drink on to avoid a DUI/being a shithead. The public transportation issue is a controversial here most definitely but for now I 100% advise a vehicle. Any size, really. Get used to seeing big ass trucks everywhere. Also, use precaution when leaving u-hauls/trailers/vehicles parked at hotels or out in public as it has been reported that these kinds of things can be targeted by criminals. Be smart, use common sense. What about the weather?
Its fucked! :P But in all seriousness, Its hot. From the months of July – August, I avoid going outside. That’s just me personally, but we regularly get 10 -20 100 degree days a calendar year here (2022 hottest summer ever recorded here), but can be more or less depending on the prevailing winds. The summers are humid and generally speaking mid 90s upwards. The rest of the year it’s pretty mild, but can be quite humid, which can make those lower temperature days feel like Satan's sauna. In the winter, you’ll probably only use your winter coat a handful of times. Have issues with snow? You’ll never see that shit again here (haha j/k Winterpocalypse 2021
. Probably.. Sometimes flurries but they melt when they hit the ground. And every now and again, it’ll drizzle during a freeze and the city will shut down. No one goes anywhere, the roads will be deserted and they’ll cancel school.
ALLERGY ALERT. We got allergies yo. Expect it, prepare for it.
So most of your weather problems are going to be heat related, but we also experience some very severe storms. We aren’t Dallas or Oklahoma, so we’re not technically in Tornado alley but we've had a few low rated EF-0's. We also had a historic hail storm
a few years ago that was rather expensive, so make sure you have that home/car insurance going to be prepared. I’d say it’s a rarity, but certainly possible.
So that brings me to my next biggest warning. Floods
. This is more prevalent at low water crossings and such, but if it rains for an extended period of time with no relief we’re gonna flood
. Just be smart about it, turn around don’t drown etc. This is Texas, our weather is all over the place.
Here are some weather related websites (local news stations and such) for San Antonio: KENS5
, Texas Storm Chasers
- not only for San Antonio, but interesting none-the-less How is the cost of living?
Excellent. Low cost of living, 9.5/10 I’d say. No state income tax. Some figures to give you an idea. Apartments from $700-1000. The median sales price on homes is around $250-260k (source, sociocats
:P ), but you can get things that are nice for less depending on your desires, land, etc etc. This is just a vague statement really, you should probably talk to a realtor.
Gas price is currently $3.29 as of 8/19/22. Link to updated, real time gas prices
. Movie tickets at the Drafthouse are matinee $8.50, evening and weekend 12.25 plus an extra dollar if you book online. Santikos matinee $9.74 and evenings $12.99.
Inexpensive water bills, electricity bills depend on your consumption of AC and size of home so I won’t speculate. According to the census the median income level is $42,613. I’ll be interested to see if its risen when they do the next census in a couple of years. Work?
It really should go without saying, you should secure employment before moving here. I would argue that San Antonio is largely a blue collar town, but there is also ample opportunity for white collar. Some of the largest employers here are the Military, USAA, the city of San Antonio, HEB, Rackspace, Toyota, various School Districts, Valero, Southwest Research, Clearchannel, Chase, Methodist and Baptist Health systems, & ATT. This list is just to give you an idea. Demographics?
Hispanic - 63.8% White – 24.8% Black – 6.7% Asian – 2.8% and of course everyone else fills the rest of the percentage out The U.S census Bureau in depth demographics
So obviously Texas was
Mexico at one point in her history, so our demographics reflect that. This is illustrated everywhere you go, from food, culture, events, music, life. What restaurants do you recommend?
This one I’m going to direct you to the sidebar as there’s a whole sub dedicated to food over there ----------- What is there to DOOOOO?
This is probably the most asked question I see around here. IMO, San Antonio is what you make of it! There’s plenty of shit for you to do here! If you don’t know what to do with yourself that’s on you, not the city. So I guess I’ll throw you a list of things off the top of my head. Links for the lazy if you want to know more. This is not definitive, if you have ideas on what to add just message me and I’ll add it to the list :D Symbols used before the attraction to designate either
@ = Free Attractions or the ~ symbol which = directly downtown S.A. There are some I don’t label as downtown because they’re more like, NEXT to downtown than in it.
P.S I’m not including Austin, if you want to go to Austin go check out their sub. But I am including the Hill Country. :D
~@ The Riverwalk
– lets be real tho, if you don’t have money
all you can do is wander around typically. Downtown is incredibly beautiful in the winter
. It extends beyond downtown SA and has multiple art installations
along its path. It can be very overpriced, for sure. Some places are great to eat at, or drink at. I wouldn't necessarily call it a tourist trap, but its one of the most visited places in San Antonio for out-of-towners. Once you live here a while, you may find that you only go to the Riverwalk when friends are in from out of town, or occasionally on the weekend. Unless you live near its 15 mile length of course. Also, this is where all the Pokémon are congested. My favorite restaurant/bar is down here and gets a special mention because I love it The Esquire Tavern
. Keep in mind that the tourist part of it is in downtown proper, but there's a huge, and newly renovated stretch of the Riverwalk that extends well past this. People walk their dogs
along the path, use certain sections for biking (but biking is prohibited
along some sections, so check it out before you go) and hiking
~@ The Alamo
- admission to church and grounds is free, guided tour costs money
@ The Missions
~ Tower of Americas
– That big needle looking building that dominates our skyline. There’s an overpriced restaurant inside it the slowly revolves 360 degrees while you dine. On top there’s a bar. You can ride the elevator for free to have a drink at the bar, that way you can get the view without breaking the bank for the observation deck. Happy Hour is 4:30-7:30 p.m. Monday-Friday, and is best time to go for cheap.
~@ Main Plaza
– An old church that has a pretty cool light show
at night essentially.
@~ Central Library
– The famous Enchilada Red library downtown, lots of books, and they have art inside like the Fiesta Tower
seen here. I think its pretty cool, but some say its an eyesore. Sea World
- $60+ per ticket Six Flags Fiesta Texas
- $60+ per ticket Splashtown waterpark
- $30 – 32$ per ticket
– as low as $20 per ticket but more like 35 or 40$
~ The Majestic Theatre
- This venue is unlike any other, just check out this image
. I saw the Symphony here, Stomp, Phantom of the Opera, The Lion King Live on Broadway. Its host to comedy, music, and theater acts. Check the website for shows. Prices depend on the act of course. Woodlawn Theater
- Live theater, saw Rocky Horror Picture Show here once upon a time. The Roxie Theater
- Again live theater joint. I'd characterize it as intimate, black box style theater. 360 degrees, theater in the round experience.
~Aztec - theater with various performances
– varies on show The Tobin Center for the Performing Arts
- A new, gorgeous venue! I've linked to the website for specific acts, there's ALOT. ~They also have Cinema on the Plaza
here, which is similar to Slab Cinema. Spurs Game
– average ticket price is $75 but varies of course. Go Spurs Go! San Antonio Zoo
– 20$ a ticket, but can be less for special events or if you have a coupon! :D The Botanical Gardens
- $12 for adults, less for kids
@ The Japanese Tea Garden
- Its a beautiful Garden...
@ Denman Estate Park
– I love this little park because of the duck pond and Korean pagoda, it’s nice for a little walk around, but is a bit small. San Pedro Springs Park Garden
- There's a free pool you can swim in here.
– Free outdoor movies like Trolls and The Big Lebowski, website for what’s showing The Witte Museum
– 20$ generally for all exhibits, but free on Tuesdays from 3:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m for permanent exhibits. They just finished their renovations!
~The San Antonio Museum of Art S.A.M.A
- $15 but free Tuesdays from 4:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m. and Sundays from 10:00 a.m. – 12:00 p.m. Check website for other free admission days. The McNay Museum of Modern Art
- $10, free first Sunday of every month and every Thursday 4:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m San Antonio Aquarium
– 13$ weekday, 16$ weekend, This place is not a world class aquarium, but it does have a touch pool for little stingrays and such which is interesting. Results may vary. The Alamo Drafthouse movie theatre
– eat, drink some beer, watch a movie from the comfort of your seat. Pre show isn’t ads but weird YouTube videos related to the movie you’re going to watch. The Bijou Cinema Bistro
- This isn't just another theater, its the art theater in town! Its also a place you can go to have lunch/dinner from the comfort of your seat. They show indie films generally at this branch tho its owned by the larger well known Santikos. There is a long hallway where this theater often has artwork on display and on sale so you can check that out, and on weekends they might have someone playing the keyboard in the lobby.
@ First Friday – South Alamo Street (near South Presa Street) is the starting point for the First Friday of the month. Art, crafts, live music and food over many blocks. The event includes studios and galleries in the King William Historic District and the BlueStar complex. 6 – 10 p.m. An addition to First Friday, is Second Saturday
@ The Pearl
– A collection of trendy restaurants, events, bookstores, bars, etc. Its pretty nice tbh, and has great food. Check out the website for events. There’s also a farmers market here. I'm putting a free symbol because you don't need
money to look around, but you'll want money to get your food on.
~@ Check out some local Murals – Here’s a PDF of locations. Scobee Planetarium
- I think its about 5$, but this is a short and sweet kind of place to visit. Its not worldclass, so know that before going. Free Yoga
- Its free yoga, for all kinds of fitness levels. Check out the link for more information and specifics. LGBTQ
- I think this could be its own category, but there's a place in SA we call the Strip
a mile long located off of North Main. A variety of gay bars, clubs, and a shop or two all lie conveniently next to each other. Pride is coming up in July, here's some events
for that. Surrounding areas / you need a car: Texas Snake Farm
– I think it’s kind of cool for the snake room, off 35 in New Braunfels Schlitterbahn
- the hottest coolest time in Texas ;) Natural Bridge Caverns
- You know, a cave system. Also, I believe you have the option to see some bats emerge here. Bracken Cave (near Natural Bridge) has like 20 millions bats that emerge, but you have to be a member of the Bat Conservation International group to see them. The cave is on private property but if interested, check this FAQ
out. Stars and Stripes Drive in Theater
- $8 double feature Cascade Caverns
– 18$, 75$ for adventure tour which I hear is awesome and you get muddy/wet. Cave without a Name
– They sometimes have small music acts inside the cave. $20 Natural Bridge Wildlife Ranch
– Adults 22$
@ Stonehenge II – It’s a 90% height, 60% replica of Stonehenge, located in Ingram, TX about an hour or so outside of S.A. Its on a grassy field next to The Point Theatre
, a great little community theater for the Hill Country. National Museum of the Pacific War
– 15$ admission, Fredericksburg, TX an hour outside of San Antonio. @ There’s a Japanese Garden on the premises that is free to visit, it was a gift to the people of the US from Japan.
@ Enchanted Rock
– State Park. It’s a park so you know hiking, rock climbing, etc. No swimming here tho.
@ Tubing/Swimming – Beer and inner tubes might cost money, but its free otherwise. The Guadalupe, Comal, San Marcos and Frio rivers are there for your amusement. seasonal things:
- April Poteet Strawberry Festival
- April Asian Festival
@ Planet K's Día de los Muertos Firework Display at Woodlawn Park
- November San Antonio Stock Show and Rodeo
- February. And to kick off the Rodeo, there's Cowboy Breakfast
~@ River Parades - They have river parades when the Spurs win a championship, during Fiesta, for St. Patricks Day, and for the Lighting of the River walk during the christmas. They even have a military parade. Generally the news or The Current can keep you appraised of when there's one going on. Pretty chill thing to do. Bring a lawn chair. Texas Folklife Festival
– June (you can check out the Institute of Texan Culture during this festival as well) Kerrville Folk Festival
– music festival in May/June
@ Balcones Heights Jazz Festival
Alamo City Comic Con – SeptembeOctober Wurstfest
- November in New Braunfels Sports
Again, the Spurs
- Basketball. Let me state for the record, this is a big deal here. The Stars
- WNBA team, you know more basketball, except with ladies. The Missions Baseball
- Minor league baseball, recently upgrades from AA to AAA. You get to see Henry the Puffy Taco
in the wild if you go. I think they have dollar beer nights..or at least they did when I was a kid. San Antonio Rampage
- Hockey, yes. We have a hockey team, don't act surprised :P San Antonio FC
- Soccer UTSA
- University of Texas at San Antonio has multiple sports teams you can check out. Things you can do here that aren't necessarily San Antonio-specific, but more ideas never hurt anyone!
Hookah, Bubble Tea, Bowling, Flea Markets (we got some good ones), Hogwild Records, Friends of Sound
and Southtown Vinyl
for all your vinyl/record needs (and so you can support local stores), Karaoke, check out the "haunted railroad tracks"
, Shop at La Cantera and Northstar Mall where we have The Boots
on display, go clubbing/dancing at the variety of bars around town. Pick your poison, there's plenty of great business' to choose from. Gaming/Comic Stores - Dragon’s Lair Heroes and Fantasies Alien Worlds Knight Watch Games Game Over Magic Beans Gaming Cafe Court of Gamers Here’s some websites and articles that might be interesting for you: 12 Maps that Help Explain San Antonio The Current
– Local magazine that details things going on around town you might not and probably haven’t heard of. It’s pretty hipsteliberal leaning. This awesome caricature map of San Antonio features must visit attractions in town 52 Things every San Antonian Must Do! Discover 12 Cool and Unusual Things to Do in San Antonio, Texas Do210 The Social Llama Other shit this sub will tell you to do or comment on:
Eat Tacos, Chachos, Fat People, Have a BBQ at your friend’s house, Whataburger
*edited for formatting, content updates, grammar, cuz I fucking wanted to :D Thanks for reading and suggestions all!